Ka tino tūpato nei ia ki te whakarite i te wāhi me te wā hei kōrero mā rāua; ka tatari kia parohe rawa rāua, kātahi ka tukua noatia atu e ia te pātai whakamārama ake i tētehi āhua o ngā kōrero o mua (TTR 1998:72-73). / He was very careful to arrange a place and time for them to talk; and waited until they were quite relaxed, and then would ask a question to elicit some point of history.

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